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Surfing is Hard and Takes a LONG TIME to LEARN

Postby Bud » Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:28 am

I browse a lot of surf forums and not surprisingly see the same issues from noobs come up all the time. Here's something that I've been thinking about for you guys to disseminate. Please check my math while you're at it -

If you ride a wave every 8 minutes = appx 7 waves/hour = 21 waves per 3 hour session

If an avg ride is 10 seconds ... 21 waves = 210 sec (3.5 minutes) of actual wave riding per session

If you can do 3 (three hour) sessions per week = 630 seconds (10.5 minutes) minutes of actual wave riding, 8.9 hours of paddling/waiting per week

546 minutes (9.1 hours) per year of actual wave riding
28080 minutes (468 hours) of paddling/waiting per year

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Postby Jahsurfs... » Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:46 am

Damn Bud, good calculations. Next time I kook a wave, I'm going to look to the guy next to me and say..
"I've only been surfing for 27.3 hours in my entire life" :D

Too funny!

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Postby Bud » Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:52 am

thanks Jah :) .... no doubt there's been others thinking about this, has there been an published article with it broke down this way?

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Most rides are very short

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Postby SOLAR » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:15 am

evr notice the best surfers are always excellent paddlers?

that is what makes the longboard so unpopular, the fact that it makes even the most out of shape obesities able to outpaddle, therefore, catch more waves than non-longboarders.

wanna surf really good?

develop your paddling strength, endurance, explosiveness...

if you can't get there faster than anyone else, it ain't yur wave...

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Postby maleko » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:16 am

wouldn't that mean surfing is easy? i mean if Jah has been surfing for 27hours and let's say he charges pipe,sunset,waimea that's really good.

or if i or another longboarder can hang 10, 5, heels, etc ,and ride 10ft+ waves with confidence and still do longboard "tricks" with only 25 hours.

look at bonga, andy and the rest of the crew. how many hours have they been doing it? or how about Tudor?

surfing is just too easy. now skateboarding takes years of practice.
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Postby Guest » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:37 am

maleko wrote: now skateboarding takes years of practice.


im proof of that, 15 yrs, and still plenty of improvement needed.....

check it out if you r bored...http://www.skatedept.com/peacepark.html

i am # 5 ....

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Postby sbmfj » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:39 am

that was my post, for some reason, i don't always seem to stay logged in......

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Postby solar » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:42 am

surfing too easy?

okay, first remove your "sissy strap". this is also known as a leash.

then, go surf waimea, sunset, lani's or makaha when it's 4XOH.

then, tell me it's easy.

surfing has one of the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOngest learning curves in existence...

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Postby Jahsurfs! » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:01 pm

edit....
Last edited by Jahsurfs! on Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Though shall be nice to everything that moves 8)

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Postby Jahsurfs! » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:04 pm

just saw your above post bud, I haven't seen anything formal. i've thought about similar ideas of how little you ride a wave vs. hours in the water but your above calculation is probably the most formal i've seen. I'll do a few quick searches later, see if I find anything.
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Postby maleko » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:23 pm

solar wrote:surfing too easy?

okay, first remove your "sissy strap". this is also known as a leash.

then, go surf waimea, sunset, lani's or makaha when it's 4XOH.

then, tell me it's easy.

surfing has one of the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOngest learning curves in existence...


according to the catching wave/paddling ratio. riding all those spots will still be easy. you spend 10 minutes out there and catch 1 wave and ride then you're good

now, drop in a 12ft halfpipe and do a switch stance 360 heelflip w/in a 10 minute time limit and i seriously doubt you'll make it.

skating takes years to master/get good. surfing just several hours to master/get good.

the proof is posted in Bud's message (9 hours a year)

now rusty k is good! he drops in 40ft waimea switchstance, while the other surfers are just trying to drop in doing their normal stance.

how many hours has he surfed?

even surfers are pissed that ther "skateboad" invention flew off the charts. example, surfers are just recently busting airs, whereas skaters have been doing it since the 70's. just look at shortboarding all their tricks are copies of skater's tricks. rodney mullen was doing all the tech flip tricks in the early 80's, mid 90's come and "street skaters" are doing all his moves.

in summary, it takes several hours to get good at surfing and years to get good skating :) the proof is posted in Bud's message (9 hours a year)
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Postby LGREANZ » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:58 pm

when u go skate boarding you twist your ankle then u cant surf, that sucks.

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Postby maleko » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:32 pm

sbmfj wrote:that was my post, for some reason, i don't always seem to stay logged in......


checked the website...cool.
next your going to have to work on nollie kickflip to tail slide, if you can't do it already. i haven't skated seriously for about 6 years. The Plan B video that came out in 96/97? was bad ass!!
i was way into the Blind, World Industry, plan b family of decks. big Brother magazine ruled back then, but i heard steve rocco sold it and it settled down a bit.
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Nice shit

Postby HMARK » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:54 pm

Humble bows to you O' Budster.

Pretty cool theory. And all the calculations going down. Like that.

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Just jiving ya bro - -

Real innaressing - I wonder if someone has done a study or time shit on it - gotta get Googling now - see what the frick can come up with. Ya neva know

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Postby HMARK » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:59 pm

Does the time I spent cracking my ASS on friggin steel wheeled skateboards and ceramic whelled boards count as surf time or modern skate time?

I still got bumps from the falls on my body - - - An do I get bonus points for the Cadillac Wheels I had on my SIMS 10" skate I hauled around in college W/ all the fucking asshole Preppys dissing my ass?

X games suck my dick - Fall down face first at wallos or uluwatus - no pads - slippas for gloves -

No wonder I get brain damage....

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